I hope EMAIL RALLY is going on among anthropologists, conspiracy theorists, psychiatrists, psychologists. This is not a spam but a way of protesting. What I am sharing is an information about injustice and ethically wrong decisions that San Jose State University faculties and hospital workers at Valley Medical Center and El Camino Hospital did. By sharing the information, I can prevent further crime they might commit among the people involved with the university. A professor was missing in the Winter of 2006 and found in the East Coast. There might be more student killed and raped in the hospitals when they had been student activists. I don't understand why some students are blindly believing that fascist-style government's watchdog is activism. Someone spread the illusion to deceive students. Real activists are on the side of being oppressed and minorities, and the government is often on the opposite side. I am very proud to be oppressed by the deceived students. Yeah, that's why Dr. Sivertsen said “they are not wise” in our conversation on September 27th 2006. It was her response to my statement that students were talking about how they wiretapped my apartment room. If they wanted to show their work, they should not wiretap someone's room. Stalking is a crime. Wiretapping without a warrant is also a crime, right? In my case, it was necessary to record the conversations with people on campus, because they were working on my harassment. If I was not being harassed, I had no need of keeping the record of my conversation with faculties. Furthermore, I did not have to know Dr. Sivertsen at all. Dr. English-Lueck suggested me to see her when I had problem with Dr. Weiss in May 2006. I thought it was her kindness to think my need of a counselor to talk about a professor trying to make me to be her lover as she got engaged with her colleague. Then, Dr. Sivertsen kept asking me in the meeting that if I was the one seducing Dr. Weiss. Yeah, everyone knows how she knows Dr. Donald Johansen so well among psychical anthropology major students. She b ragged about her relationship with him to her close students. She sometimes offered private meeting outside of campus as she is passionate about the subects related with psychical anthropology. (She knows how to read body languages and uses the technique for persuading people. That part I played with her while we had a pretty good relationship. If you know how to read body language, you will learn more from her.)
The below is the information I added in the second protesting.
Scandal of American Anthropologists and Psychiatrists (SJSU)
To Whom It May Concern:
This is an email I am protesting about violation of International Law by American Anthropologists and Nuremberg Code by psychiatrists. Please feel free to forward it to anyone you. Thank you very much for fowarding it to “mail-archaive.com”! This protesting is due to change my situation of being a refugee in a safe European country as I am aware of danger returning to Japan. We have no anti-spy law and do have revenge making agencies in Japan. Also, this is a protesting to the people involved for expelling students from the school illegally.
I was studying at San Jose State University and was major in Anthropology. Last March, Sarah Linn and other students started harassment in Dr. Robert Gonzalez's Anth 187 class, which is about “Thought Control in Contemporary Societies.” I did not know that these anthropology and behavioral science major students were working on gangstalking on me using the technique we learned in Anth 187 class. On October 16th 2006, I was asked to stop by at her office when I met Dr. English-Lueck, the chairwoman of anthropology department. At the anthropology department office, I was handcuffed by police officers and Dr. English-Lueck and police officer apologized me for their action, yet the police officer sent me to Valley Medical Center Emergency Psychiatric Unit. Later, I was sent to El Camino Hospital as SJSU police officer told me on the day of my forced transportation. At El Camino Hospital, I became a subject of some experiment. Dr. Burr, Dr. Kent, Dr. Newsom persuaded me to stop the investigation of the students harassments by Equal Opportunity Service of SJSU. After I agreed to stop doing nothing to the American students' discrimination on me, I was discharged. However, I was followed by Department of Defense people while I was in the United States. Please excuse large size of this email.
I was the only one received award from the volunteer side we worked for Dr. English-Lueck's Anth 142 class, yet Sarah Linn, now the graduate student of SJSU and coordinator of the volunteer organization (Project SHINE) started harassment on me. I believe that anthropologists should not discriminate people from abroad for whatever the reason. I do not mind if AAA (American Anthropology Association) does not concern the case as they did not worked for Yanomami scandal until a journalist published the ethics issue. I know SJSU and anthropology department wants me to be killed as I became a TI (targeted individual) of organized stalking and electronic harassment. In my case, SJSU sent me to a mental hospital to avoid lawsuit.
While SJSU anthropologists were trying to expel me from the university, American Anthropologists Association held their annual meeting in San Jose, CA. It was in the third week of November last year. You can imagine how American Anthropologists have no sense of ethics just like they did not touch Yanomami scandal until journalists debunked it. This is because of CIA agents. If you are a member of AAA, you would get benefit for job opportunity. This is true for CIA. That is what I learned from the anthropologists.
I attached:
Dictation of my conversation with Dr. English-Lueck, Sergent John Laws (SJSU Police), and another police officer. (October 16th 2006)
Dictation of Dr. Wiggsy Sivertsen. I met her on September 27th to know if the school or students were working on any type of investigation on me and she denied. She said only one way I could deal with the students harassment was to bring it to court. And she warned me not to do so as I am “..none of American citizen.” She wrote the documentation of my forced transportation to a mental hospital on October 16th 2006 without meeting me. This was my last visit to Dr. Sivertsen's office.)
Here is the link to the actual files. It lasts only 60 days for download from today. (August 19th 2007)
I am still alive and helping other TIs as a volunteer. A real activist after 911 should work with TIs!!!
Thank you for the time and consideration,
Miyoko Goto
Real files (I hope NSA does not edit my files..):
Dr. Sivertsen talking about I was making accusations and wanted to stop me bring it to lawsuit by writing a document for forced transportation to a mental hospital.
http://www.mediafire.com/?cyy1ygn22zn
Dr.English-Lueck on October 16th 2006
http://www.mediafire.com/?1vd9ctj9yyi
061206 Talking with Dr. English-Lueck – about Dr. Weiss's lover matter
http://www.mediafire.com/?3c3bab5ymbw
Calm down calm down Elizabeth – the day she was planning to propose me to marry in Canada.
http://www.mediafire.com/?eykqh2yymns
Phone talk with Judicial Affairs office worker on Nov 20, 2006
http://www.mediafire.com/?azs9dbmys1d
Dr. Weiss's lover matter (Spring 2006)
http://www.mediafire.com/?cyynz02hrn1
The pictures of Department of Defense followed me.
http://rapidshare.com/files/50797211/Bilder.zip.html
Here is the real dictation.
Dictation (downloadable 60days from 23 Aug 07)
http://rapidshare.com/files/50783053/Dictations.zip.html
////////////////// Part of the dictation is below ////////////////////////////
09/27/2006 Meeting with Dr. Wiggsy Siverstsen (school psychiatrist, and the director of the counseling service)
0:00 (getting in to the counseling office)
1:12 (another student talking about her appointment)
10:34 Dr. Sivertsen: “Miyoko, come in.”
Me: “Yeah.”
10:43 Dr. Sivertsen: “How are you?”
Dr. Sivertsen: “Tired.?”
Me: “I have a midterm.”
Dr. Sivertsen: “Ah... “
Me: “I have a midterm in 6 o'clock.” (about Dr. Mxxxxxxti's class)
Dr. Sivertsen: “Oh..”
(we walked into her office)
11:10 Dr. Sivertsen: “So what can I do you for..?”
Me: “I'm wondering if anything going on like students evaluation or student evaluating like...something like that..”
Dr. Sivertsen: “”. (could not hear clearly.)
11:23 Me: “I think some students evaluating me especially in Anth 143 class. (refering Dr. Mxxxxxxti's class).
11:28 Me: “And I would like to know what is going on. You don't know?”
11:33 Dr. Sivertsen: “no..no”
11:35 Me: “Some students, actually I send it to email and you and..the.. ”
11:38 Dr. Sivertsen: “I think.. yeah.. yeah..”
Me: “And I'm just wondering if it is credidential or not..just wondering..”
11:43 Dr. Sivertsen: “Is.. is what?”
11:45 Me: “Is it like secured.. is the information secured or not.”
11:47 Dr. Sivertsen: “Is the information you send me?”
Me: “Yes.”
11:50 Dr. Sivertsen: “Everything here is confidential”
11:55 Me: “The cover? Is like.. the first day.. or the first meeting day of the Anthro 143, someone... actually we have.. like.. we had a group work and some one actually checked my like my German ability or something because ..”
12:12 Me: “Actually because .. ah.. I had.. ah.. “
12:17 Me: “in group, I had two students like.. one is a Mexican-German woman and the other student is... ah.. he said he.. he understands German.”
12:37 Me: “The problem is.. during we had conversation, they asked me like.. like.. he asked other students like.. they have like.. they have a German dictionary? or something like that. And I'm just wondering.”
12:49 Me: “Because actually I had writing like.. German writing..and it's kind of something like. spiritual one.”
12:59 Dr. Sivertsen: “Kind of what?”
13:00 Me: “It is a kind of spiritual one. Actually (cannot hear this part clearly) Because so many things happened.” (loudly)
13:07 Dr. Sivertsen: “Uh-huh.”
Me: “I'm just wondering.:”
13:08 Me: “The problem is that I .. it was on Monday class.. like Monday night's class. But Tuesday morning, it's an actually an anthropology class.”
13:27 Me: “And someone said like I had the conversation like.. and they saw me like how I show other students about my German writing or something like that. “
13:38: Me: “So.. I'm wondering.. Because in their conversation, I had like a ... actually some students are trying to see or figure out if I am really..like..”
13:54 Dr. Sivertsen: “Miyoko, let me, let me explain something to you.”
13:56 Me: “Yeah.”
13:58 Dr. Sivertsen: “Everything that goes on in this office..”
Me: “Uh-huh.”
Dr. Sivertsen: “ is TOTALLY CONFIDENTIAL.”
14:04 Me: “The problem is that...”
14:06 Dr. Sivertsen: “Hang on.”
Me: “OK.”
14:09 Dr. Sivertsen: “Only time and ever, talk about clients outside of the office”
Me: “Uh-huh.”
Dr. Sivertsen: “is when the clients give the permissions.”
14:22 Dr. Sivertsen: “in the writings..”.
Me: “Uh-huh.”
Dr. Sivertsen: “Or if the clients making threats expressing somebody's life..”
14:27 Me: “Oh no.”
Dr. Sivertsen: “Or there is a client.. ah.. has.. abused.. sexually abused in their home and their younger children in their house.”
Me: “Uh-huh.”
14:38 Dr. Sivertsen: “Other than then, we cannot talk to anybody. I cannot talk to anybody comes in here. I can't give the names of the clients (she gives an example, John Smith, very quickly and states that she cannot give the client's name to the president of the college.)”
Me: “OK.”
14:57 Dr. Sivertsen: “So everything goes in here, even the emails that you've sent to me is totally in he confidential as it stays in the office.”
15:06 Dr. Sivertsen: “So nothing will bothers you.”
15:09 Me: “And, then, why.. ah.. I'm just wondering why.. like.. what was that..”
15:17 Me: “... I cannot remember... It was last week I guess. When I came into the counselling office..”
15:24 Me: “Actually at the counter.”
15:26 Me: “I actually asked her to make an appointment with you and.. I don't know why but she knows..ah..she asked me if I'm the one who send the email to .. like the email in morning.”
15:41 Dr. Sivertsen: “Does she..does she..”
15:43 Me: “No. she did.”
15:47 Dr. Sivertsen: “Who was it?”
15:52 Me: “I can't remember. But if I can see her face, I probably remember.. Actually she said she is the one who ah.. “
16:05 Me: “when I came in first time to make an appointment, she was the one..”
16:08 Dr. Sivertsen: “Well.. if that was my secretary..”
16:10 Me: “I'm not sure.”
16:13 Dr. Sivertsen: “If she may of asked you, she may connect the names so she could put the stuff and she could hold it for me, but it still does not go out of this office.”
16:23 Dr. Sivertsen: “A worker could ask and say you had an email so that she can try to make an appointment..”
16:28 Dr. Sivertsen: “.. I really don't see students.”
!6”30 Dr. Sivertsen: “So that she tries to connect who you work and is that your case then check the worker to see if that it was. She is the only one that I asked you that. But regardless...”
16:40 Me: “Uh-huh..”
Dr. Sivertsen: “.. the secretary isn't promo in the office.”
Me: “Uh-huh.”
16:43 Dr. Sivertsen: “And the stuff back here and all the others in the office...”
Me: “Uh-huh.”
Dr. Sivertsen: “..cannot come out outside of this inner-building.”
16:47 Me: “Umm.”
16:51 Me: “Then, how about the conversation like.. I.. I asked... like..”
16:59 Me: “On Tuesday... theTuesday, I actually heart that the students talking about something like.. ah..”
17:06 Me: “They really disvalueded.. ah.. like they disvalued her or something like that.”
17:10 Me: “And in their conversation, they knew that I'm the only one that got the certificate from the volunteer or something or what.”
17:18 Dr. Sivertsen: “You usually wanna what?”
17:21 Me: “Actually, in their conversation, they said, I'm the only one got certificate.”
17:24 Me: “I... I.. I didn't talk about that matter.”
17:29 Dr. Sivertsen: “Yeah. I don't know the answer you questioned for you.”
17:30 Dr. Sivertsen: “I.. I do not have the answer of the question for you. “
17:34 Dr. Sivertsen: “I don't know why the students talk about or what students are doing even know who the students are.”
17:40 Me: “Ok.”
17:41 Dr. Sivertsen: “So, whatever they are talking about, I don't know why.”
17:46 Me: “Um.. Actually they said like.. they.. I think they knew what I wrote to the ombudsman, because they talked about the matter too, like...”
17:58 Me: “.. how they think.. how they express they think about Dr. Weiss..”
18:04 Me: “.. after they.. I reveiled the information I holded it.”
18:11 Dr. Sivertsen: “Ombudsman is the same position as I am.”
Me: “So..”
18:14 Dr. Sivertsen: “He can't talk to anybody.”
18:16 Me: “Then, I have no idea why nobody really checked my evidences or like.. ah..”
18:22 Me: “... except trying to check my German knowledge or something like that.”
18:26 Me: “I have no idea.”
18:34 Dr. Sivertsen: (cannot hear what she is saying because of the noise)
Me: “Uh-huh.”
18:36 Dr. Sivertsen: “Think again about what you did in this summer. You have charges that you want to bring.”
18:39 Me: “Ok.”
18:40 Dr. Sivertsen: “Against anybody, you must file them.”
18:47 Dr. Sivertsen: “You would not file them in this office, then you would not file them in anthro office, then you have to file them with the police.”
18:51 Me: “Ok.”
18:53 me: “Actually, the police said that it is a civil matter and I have to bring it to law.. a lawyer. That's what I heard from the police.”
19:01 Dr. Sivertsen: “Well, if it's the civil matter, then the police will not gonna take it.”
Me: “Yes.”
19:05 Dr. Sivertsen: “Then you have to hire a lawyer.”
19:07 Me: “Yes.”
19:07 Dr. Sivertsen: “The point is that the (cannot hear) is the onbuds person nor anybody in this office.”
19:14 Me: “Uh-huh.”
19:17 Dr. Sivertsen: “(cannot hear)...talk about you to anybody.”
19:18 Me: “Ok, then, some people know what happened to Dr. Weiss or Dr. Gonzalez, because I..”
19:24 Dr. Sivertsen: “I don't know.”
19:27 Me: “Because I'm the only one (loudly), and actually until I sent to ombudsman, I didn't talk about it to other people in... at least in Bay Area.”
19:37 Me: “That's what I can say.”
19:38 Dr. Sivertsen: “I cannot understand your question.”
19:40 Me: “Because I don't know why then..”
19:43 Dr. Sivertsen: “I don't even know what happened to Dr. Weiss.” (loudly)
19:48 Me: “Yeah? I think she is really frustrated, I guess.”
19:49 Dr. Sivertsen: “what?”
19:52 Me: “I don't know why but it looks like they are really tired.”
19:56 Dr. Sivertsen: “Does she retired?”
19:58 Me: “No, I think they are really tired some how.”
19:59 Dr. Sivertsen: (cannot hear)
20:00 Me: “Yes.”
20:02 Dr. Sivertsen: “Probably, hardwork teaching.”
20:04 Me: “Hum.”
20:07 Dr. Sivertsen: “I guess the question is what would you like me to do for you.”
20:10 Me: “I want to know if my information like.. I send it to you is credential or not.”
20:19 Dr. Sivertsen: “It's confidential.” (small voice)
20:23 Me: “You sure?”
20:24 Dr. Sivertsen: “Yeah, I am very sure.”
20:26 Dr. Sivertsen: “I own this service.”
20:30 Dr. Sivertsen: “I don't even let the immigration service to come here.”
20:31 Dr. Sivertsen: “I own this service, I am very sure.”
20:38 Dr. Sivertsen: “We are governed by very, very, very strict (cannot hear)”
20:43 Me: “Ok.”
20:44 Dr. Sivertsen: “They go beyond the university.”
20:45 Me: “Uh-huh.”
20:46 Dr. Sivertsen: “We are governed by California licensing law..”
20:49 Me: “Ok.”
20:50 Dr. Sivertsen: “.. by American Psychological Association, National Association..”
20:55 Dr. Sivertsen: “we have a layer upon a layer, that govern our service.”
21:01 Me: “Uh-huh.”
21:02 Dr. Sivertsen: “In terms of how we maintain our service, our material, and our information.”
21:08 Me: “Uh-huh.”
21:09 Dr. Sivertsen: “And we have a file that your name on it.”
21:11 Me: “Um. So, are you sure that the ombudsman didn't know..”
21:17 Dr. Sivertsen: “I didn't talk with ombudsman on campus right now, but..”
21:24 Dr. Sivertsen: “I don't know the ombudsman knows unless..”
21:25 Dr. Sivertsen: “.. if he might.. if he was concerned, he might call me.”
21:29 Me “Uh-huh.”
31:30 Dr. Sivertsen: “And say, I have a student that I am really worried about, can you talk the students.”
21:35 Me “Uh-huh.”
21:36 Dr. Sivertsen: “And then he might talk to me about why he is worried about you. ”
21:41 Dr. Sivertsen: “If you were the student, or any students.”
21:42 Me “Uh-huh.”
21:44 Dr. Sivertsen: “Then I would ask the student to come by and talk, but again, he is governed by very strict laws of confidentiality.”
21:52 Me “Ok.”
21:54 Me “Can I ask one question about your.. I'm not sure.. I can't remember her name, ah..:
22:01 Me “I think she is Japanese American. I think you supervise her. Do you know the..”
22:06 Dr. Sivertsen: “Winther?”
22:07 Me “Sorry?”
22:08 Dr. Sivertsen: “Winthor R. Teller?”
22:09 Me “Yes. I just wondering.. um.. when.. last Friday, I met with her.”
22:15 Me “I'm just wondering when she asked if my parrot can speak Japanese.”
22:20 Dr. Sivertsen: “Your what?”
22:22 Me “..if my parrot can speak Japanese because I have a parrot.”
22:24 Dr. Sivertsen: “Wow!” (with surprise)
22:25 Me “Yeah, I'm just wondering..”
22:27 Dr. Sivertsen: “You have a parrot?”
22:28 Me “Yes.”
22:29 Dr. Sivertsen: “Well!”
22:30 Me “And do you know.. I actually..”
22:31 Dr. Sivertsen: “Can, can your parrot speak Japanese?”
22:35 Me “A sort of anything like German.. something, something like ah.. middle of nothing, you know.”
22:41 Dr. Sivertsen: “Oh yeah, all right..”
22:42 Me “Something, something like.. alarms, too.”
22:50 Dr. Sivertsen: “I would think so because the parrot will say what you say.”
22:53 Me “Yeah.”
22:54 Dr. Sivertsen: “If I might call parrots.”
22:58 Dr. Sivertsen: “The biter?”
22:59 Me (cannot hear)
23:02 Me (cannot hear) “... Irene Pepperburgs study about African Grey, do you know?”
23:06 Dr. Sivertsen: “What?”
23:07 Me “African Grey.”
23:08 Dr. Sivertsen: “Oh, yeah! Pretty.”
23:11 Me “He speaks a lot because.. Irene Pepperburg studied.. you know..”
23:22 Me “I have a problem.”
23:24 Me “In my apartment, some students moved in. I think they are ones doing the harassment.”
23:32 Dr. Sivertsen: “If they are harassing you, then again, you can file charges, Miyoko.”
23:38 Me “Who should bring it to.. lawyer or anything like that?”
23:41 Me “I am just wondering because I talked with someone else about the issue.”
23:45 Dr. Sivertsen: “Yeah, well again if it is a civil matter..”
23:48 Me “Uh-huh.”
23:49 Dr. Sivertsen: “then you have to go to a lawyer.”
23:50 Me “Ok.”
23:51 Dr. Sivertsen: “If it's a criminal matter..”
23:52 Me “Uh-huh.”
23:53 Dr. Sivertsen: “..then you go to the police.”
23:56 Me “How about stalking? Is it a criminal matter or..?”
23:58 Dr. Sivertsen: “Stalking is a criminal matter.”
24:01 Dr. Sivertsen: “If you think somebody is stalking you..”
24:04 Me “Yes, and I recorded their conversation..”
24:05 Dr. Sivertsen: “Then you have to go to the police and tell them..”
24:06 Me “Ok.”
24:11 Me “the problem is I don't know how many students involved.”
24:14 Dr. Sivertsen: “I'm sorry?”
24:15 Me “How many students are involved in this..”
24:16 Dr. Sivertsen: “Well, I...”
24:16 Me “I'm sure Sarah Linn is involved in..” (loudly)
24:19 Dr. Sivertsen: “Why do they bothering you?”
24:21 Me “I have no idea. They don't like me.”
24:23 Dr. Sivertsen “Why not?”
24:25 Me “Probably I emailed... I.. I have no idea.”
24:31 Me “I don't know.. probably.. probably some of them start to hate me because I brought the Dr. Weiss's case to the ombudsman.”
24:41 Me “Probably they would..”
24:43 Dr. Sivertsen “How do they know that?”
(small pause)
24:49 Me “I have no idea because what I wrote to.. um..”
24:53 Me “.. I only contacted with ombudsman and you..”
24:58 Me “.. and Dr. Weiss and she said ah.. she will going to.. ah.. send my mail forward to Dr. English-Lueck. That's what she wrote me about that, so...”
25:15 Dr. Sivertsen “That's appropriate.”
25:15 Me “I think if..”
25:17 Dr. Sivertsen “Why will the students bothering you?”
25:18 Me “I have no idea.”
25:21 Dr. Sivertsen “Most of my experience with students, Miyoko, that you do not bother each other.”
25:25 Me “Yes, but the problem is.. last night, some students actually tried to follow me.”
25:30 Dr. Sivertsen “Tried to follow you?”
25:32 Me “Yes.”
25:32 Dr. Sivertsen “Why would they following you?”
25:33 Me “I don't know.”
25:36 Me “Probably they just want to harass me..”
25:38 Dr. Sivertsen “But if you think you have been stalked or harassed, (cannot hear) to police report.”
25:40 Me “Ok.”
25:42 Dr. Sivertsen “You know, that's what you that case.”
25:45 Dr. Sivertsen “You should be very careful.”
25:45 Me “Why?”
25:48 Dr. Sivertsen “That's what kind of accusations you make what people are doing.”
(a pause)
25:55 Dr. Sivertsen “You know what I'm saying?”
25:58 Me “Yes. I think I have enough records for what was going on.”
26:00 Dr. Sivertsen “I don't want you to get into trouble.”
26:01 Me “Why?”
26:03 Dr. Sivertsen “Well, you can't file very happy and very sure that what you are saying to the police this occurrence of the facts.”
26:06 Dr. Sivertsen “(cannot hear) new window or new assumption.”
26:13 Me “No?”
26:16 Me “Actually, it was happ.. it happened on the hallway on my apartment.”
26:20 Me “Actually, someone saw me..”
26:21 Dr. Sivertsen “Uh-huh.”
26:21 Me “... and I.. I just.. I just stayed a little bit away (cannnot hear).. He acted quite weird.”
26:35 Me “... and...”
26:36 Me “.. actually I think they were wiretapping me.”
26:43 Dr. Sivertsen “Why they have that? I don't think so.”
26:46 Dr. Sivertsen “I think that's your imagination.”
26:48 Me “But actually they said so.”
26:50 Dr. Sivertsen “I don't think they are wise. Hard to wire them.”
26:55 Me “But I think that's how they did.”
(a pause)
27:04 Me “So, if you don't mind, if I bring it to anywhere.”
27:07 Dr. Sivertsen “No.”
27:11 Me “... including US president.”
27:12 Dr. Sivertsen “no.”
27:13 Dr. Sivertsen “DO WHAT YOU WANT.”
27:14 Me “Ok.”
27:14 Dr. Sivertsen “Yeah, no. (cannot hear) you.”
27:20 Dr. Sivertsen “But once again, no information goes out of this office.”
27:25 Me “From here?”
(pause)
27:31 Dr. Sivertsen “And even if you file the report to the police and they came over and talk to me, I won't talk about it without your permission.”
27:38 Me “Ok.”
27:40 Me “How about the conversation?”
27:41 Dr. Sivertsen “Perdon me?”
27:43 Me “How about the conversation with students?”
27:46 Dr. Sivertsen “No. I haven't talk about it to students at all.”
27:48 Me “How come they knows what was going on?”
27:54 Dr. Sivertsen “I don't know. I have no idea.”
(pause)
28:04 Dr. Sivertsen “I think it's possible students see you walked into the office...”
28:07 Me “Uh-huh.”28:08 Dr. Sivertsen “...and say 'Miyoko goes into the counseling service.'”
28:10 Me “Uh-huh.”
28:11 Me “How about the information I talked about to somewhere else?”
28:19 Dr. Sivertsen (cannot hear)
28:22 Me “Then, why someone said like...”
(pause)
28:31 Me “How about the advisor? 'she is crazy' to say it to coworker?”
28:38 Dr. Sivertsen “Say one more time?”
28:39 Me “How about the advisor.. the student advisor..”
28:42 Dr. Sivertsen “Uh-huh, student advisor? Said what?”
28:44 Me “'She is crazy'..”
28:47 Dr. Sivertsen “Is student advisor crazy?”
28:48 Me “No. Sh.. He said.. ah.. when he explained what's the matter like.. ah.. I think the coworker asked him, 'what was going on.'”
28:56 Dr. Sivertsen “Uh-huh.”
28:58 Me “He actually just said, 'she is crazy.'”
29:01 Dr. Sivertsen “So, you are crazy?”
29:02 Me “Yes.”
29:05 Me “Is it Okay?”
29:05 Dr. Sivertsen “But, I, I can't speak to them.”
29:06 Me “I'm wondering because it just happened in IPS office.”
29:10 Me “That's why I didn't go there for any further advising.”
29:14 Dr. Sivertsen “Right.”
29:18 Dr. Sivertsen “I don't know about their control. All I have in control is about this office.”
29:27 Dr. Sivertsen “Ok?”
29:27 Me “How about any other.. like.. is there anyone I can talk with or someone out side of campus.. Do you know anyone?”
29:41 Me “In this campus, is anywhere..?”
29:43 Dr. Sivertsen “What do you wanna talk about to whom?”
29:47 Me “Like someone.. like.. doing evaluation for something like that..”
29:53 Dr. Sivertsen “There is no body doing evaluation about you.”
(pause)
30:02 Dr. Sivertsen “You know, that could be on campus. The police could be call FEBA(?), which is the federal registration.”
30:10 Me “Uh-huh?”
30:11 Dr. Sivertsen “That protects students rights and privacy.”
30:13 Me “Uh-huh.”
30:18 Dr. Sivertsen “That could be talking about students' private things. I don't (cannot hear) So, there are lots of confidentialities in the university.
30:26 Me “Uh-huh.”
30:27 Dr. Sivertsen “and a lot of privacy.. but nothing is.. (cannot hear) but still out there.”
30:32 Me “Um.”
30:33 Dr. Sivertsen “So people don't break those rules.”
30:36 Me “Then what happened if those people work..”
30:37 Dr. Sivertsen “So you have to prove it.”
30:43 Me (cannot hear)
30:44 Dr. Sivertsen “If you can prove it, if you can backup, you can prove it.”
30:48 Me “So, where should I bring it like..”
30:49 Dr. Sivertsen “What? Say it again?”
30:50 Me “Where should I bring..?”
30:51 Dr. Sivertsen “If you have a proof,”
30:52 Me “Yes.”
30:53 Dr. Sivertsen “th, then (cannot hear) file a civil suit..”
30:55 Me “Uh-huh. To who? Like? I have no idea because it sounds like no where... In my point of view, everything is connected but I have no idea where to bring, you know.”
31:05 Dr. Sivertsen “Well, you have to hire an attorney.”
31:08 Me “Ok.”
31:11 Dr. Sivertsen “You have to hire (cannot hear) if you want to sue somebody.”
31:12 Me “Uh-huh.”
31:13 Dr. Sivertsen “Because you have a proof.”
31:14 Me “Uh-huh.”
31:15 Dr. Sivertsen “But again, be careful. I warn you.”
31:18 Dr. Sivertsen “You make foul charges that you cannot support.”
31:22 Dr. Sivertsen “You don't wanna get into trouble.”
31:28 Me “Well, I THINK I HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE, INCLUDING DR. WEISS'S CASE.”
31:32 Dr. Sivertsen “All right.”
31:33 Me “Because everyone is talking about. Almost all the students around me are talking about that matter.”
31:36 Dr. Sivertsen “Ok.”
31:38 Me “So, I think I have enough evidences.”
31:39 Dr. Sivertsen “Ok.”
31:42 Dr. Sivertsen “Did I answer all the questions for you?”
31:43 Me “Yes.”
(pause)
31:54 Me “So, I have to bring it to the court.”
31:55 Dr. Sivertsen “Say it again?”
31:57 Me “Do I really... do you think I really should bring it... there is no other way than I bring it to the court?”
32:07 Dr. Sivertsen “To lawyer?”
32:07 Me “Yes.”
32:09 Dr. Sivertsen “If you really wanna do that. I certainly advised you not to do that.”
32:10 Me “(cannot hear clearly) there is nowhere.. I don't know any opportunity to do anything else.”
32:16 Dr. Sivertsen “Well, if you say a faculty person violated you rights, then you have to go to the ombuds person.”
32:24 Me “Yes, I went there.”
32:25 Dr. Sivertsen “Then, what happened?”
32:25 Me “I holded it, so”
32:28 Dr. Sivertsen “I'm sorry?”
32:32 Me “I holded it.. I'm just wondering.. ah..”
32:39 Me “Is there anyone supervising like.. the faculties.. like..?”
32:44 Dr. Sivertsen “The chairs, yeah. A lot of them and the anthropology...”
32:49 Me “How about the entire school?”
32:55 Dr. Sivertsen “Charlene(?) Zehber(?)”
32:59 Me “Um.. is he have email?”
33:02 Dr. Sivertsen “Sure, sure.”
33:11 Dr. Sivertsen “I'm sure she has an email.”
33:17 Me “Can I have her name?”
(Dr. Sivertsen wrote down the name on a paper.)
33:32 Me “Do you think is it better to do with a protesting? Since I am a social science major, I know how to do the protesting.”
33:43 Dr. Sivertsen “Say one more?”
33:48 Me “Should I do the protesting?”
33:50 Dr. Sivertsen “If you are protesting, what would you do?”
33:59 Me “... sharing information with others including...”
34:01 Dr. Sivertsen “I think you need to be very careful, Miyoko.”
34:04 Me “Why?”
34:05 Dr. Sivertsen “You don't want to make accusations on public unless you're very sure and know what happens.”
34:13 Dr. Sivertsen “Because you can be sued.”
34:15 Me “Ok.”
34:16 Dr. Sivertsen “Yeah. You don't wanna get into trouble. YOU ARE NONE OF THE AMERICAN CITIZEN.”
34:19 Me “I think I should bring it first, if some sue me..”
34:26 Dr. Sivertsen “But if you..”
34:26 Me “All right, all right.” (loudly)
34:28 Me “I think I will do it. Ok.”
34:32 Me “Actually I talked with a lawyer so..”
34:33 Dr. Sivertsen “Ok.”
34:39 Me “Some students moved into my apartment is enough. And their talking conversation is enough for me.”
34:43 Me “Probably they can do any..”
34:44 Dr. Sivertsen “The problem is they can do any conversation they want.”
34:48 Me “Yes, But the problem is that it sounds like they started from last Mar.. ah.. this March...”
34:55 Me “And sounds like.. it's more than abuse. If so many people like talking about that and.. I don't know..”
35:04 Dr. Sivertsen “People gossip all the time.”
35:07 Dr. Sivertsen “You can't stop people from gossiping.”
35:10 Me “Yes, but in this country, so many times it happened to African Americans. Like they were lynched. Like Japanese Americans.. it happened.”
35:21 Dr. Sivertsen “Well. What is it?”
35:22 Dr. Sivertsen “You sure? What you are saying?”
35:25 Me “I just want to show what is really going on this campus.”
35:30 Dr. Sivertsen “Ok.”
35:33 Me “You know, at least, at least I can prove there are some people really harassing a student especially in minority group like international students.
35:41 Dr. Sivertsen “If you can prove that, then go ahead."
(I left Dr. Sivertsen's office)
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This is recorded until the end of the conversation about 4:50pm, November 20th 2006.
(I turned on my voice recorder when I was on the phone with a worker at judicial affairs office.)
0:01 Worker “
0:05 Me “Excursion from university, so that means
0:08 Worker “Yeah. But I don't think that's the (cannot hear)”
0:14 Me “Yeah, but um.. “
0:16 Me “I'm just asking to be with someone and to postpone that..”
0 Worker
0:26 Me “Ah, I think it won't be like excursion from the university, I hope.”
0:31 Me “That won't be.. something like that.”
0:33 Me “Or, if that happens then.. “
0:36 Me “.. I must send the information to somewhere else again like the US Department of Education where I filed the, the documents on last Friday or something like that.”
0:46 Worker
0:48 Me “And..”
0:49 Worker “Ok, that would be good.”
0:50 Worker “Again, I need you to be here.”
0:52 Me “Ok.”
0:53 Worker “ come or not.”
0:58 Worker “Right now, we need you to
1:01 Me “But I don't think I can go..”
1:02 Me “.. by myself since...”
1:03 Me “.. I was so scared to go to the classroom since last attempt to be at the class like..”
1:14 Me “.. was like ended up...”
1:18 Me “.. in mental hospital and..”
1:21 Me (sigh)
1:22 Me “I don't think...”
1:25 Me “.. I can go to class or..”
1:26 Me “.. I can be at on campus..”
1:28 Me “... by myself. I really want to have someone with me...”
1:34 Me “.. to make sure everything won't be..”
1:38 Me “.. like something like transportation to mental hospital or something like that happen again.”
1:42 Me “I don't know because I have no idea why it happened..”
1:49 Me “.. and actually when I was transported to the hospital like Valley Medical Center and then to the El Camino Hospital, ...”
1:57 Me “... the hospitals, they couldn't figure out um..”
2:00 Me “.. they couldn't figure out I was... I was either suicidal or dangerous to others.”
2:05 Me “But somehow the other..”
2:07 Me “.. the person like the psychiatrists..”
2:13 Me “... after the three day hold, they wrote a document that I am gravely disabled..”
2:20 Me “.. and tried to put me to the fourteen days hold.”
2:23 Me “And that was bizarre and ...”
2:26 Me “..I don't want such thing happen again..”
2:29 Me “.. when I walk in your school.. like..”
2:32 Worker
2:40 Worker “.. probably at parole and we expect you to be at
2:43 Me “Yes, but I hope it won't be exposion from school or something like that.”
2:48 Worker “That's why, that's why (cannot here) talk to the (cannot here)
2:52 Me “Yes, but last time I trusted for the small talk..”
2:56 Me “it ended up in mental hospital.”
3:01 Worker “Ok, I need you to be at
3:03 Worker “.. that would be up to you if you come (cannot hear) or not.”
3:05 Me “I don't think I can go.”
3:07 Worker “Ok! I think that's gonna be (cannot hear)
3:09 Me “Yes, but..”
3:10 Worker “
3:12 Me “It won't be exposion from school..”
3:14 Me “.. because I actually tried it to postpone it.. like.. I like..”
3:17 Me “If I didn't wanted to go then I could do it..”
3:20 Me “.. I actually.. I do it to call you to postpone it...”
3:25 Me “.. that's why I am calling you and..”
3:28 Me “.. I hope it won't be ..”
3:32 Worker “That way that we can postpone it but we had scheduled last week and (cannnot hear” the professor is at parole (cannot hear)
3:43 Worker “... that would be (cannot hear) end of the day
3:51 Me “Ok.”
3:52 Worker “We would be expecting you to be at parole and (cannnot hear)
3:55 Worker “And we hope you (cannot hear) ok?”
3:59 Me “Ok. But I don't.. I can't go.”
4:01 Me “That's for sure.. and...”
4:03 Me “Actually I am stating that because right now I try to find someone.”
4:11 Me “Today I tried at least contact with Amnesty International and ACLU. They needed to look over the documents.”
4:21 Me “And I don't think they can help me on this situation right now.”
4:26 Me “Probably they need couple of days for that.”
4:28 Worker “Ok.”
4:30 Me “So, I don't think I can go.”
4:33 Worker “That's gonna be up to you, ok?”
4:35 Me “Ok.”
4:35 Worker “
4:39 (call ended)
4:46 Me “So, it is on..”
4:50 Me “um.. four fifty-one P.M.”
4:57 Me “and.. November twentieth.”
(I turned off the voice recorder.)
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25 August, 2007
This is what I have done!!! (part 2)
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